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2008年台湾总统候选人之一、国民党前主席的马英九,11到15日出访印度和新加坡。新加坡海峡时报在6月2日刊出报导,引述马英九的话说,新加坡政府有效率、官员清廉,很可以做为台湾的典范。这则报导引起新加坡反对党民主党中央委员徐淑真的注意,并发表给马英九的公开信,呼吁马英九认清事实,台湾才是新加坡应该仿效的典范。
◎新加坡才应以台湾为典范
新加坡反对派的民主党中央委员徐淑真,8日发表「给马英九的公开信」,立刻引起台湾媒体的注意,纷纷加以转载,也引起讨论。
徐淑真在提到写这封公开信的动机时表示,新加坡是一个没有民主的地方,她对马英九发表这样的言论,感到震惊。她说:『上个星期,我有看到我们这边的海峡时报,头条引述马英九的话说,Ma citing Singapore as a role-model for Taiwan.(马说,新加坡可做台湾的典范)。我看了吓了一跳。为什么你们台湾这么有民主,却要以新加坡为典范?因为新加坡是没有民主,所以,我就看那个内容,马先生就是说,他很admire(景仰)我们这边的cabinet ministers(内阁部长们),他也是说,这边的cabinet ministers是pay themselves exorbitant ridiculous amount of salary,(新加坡部长的薪水高到不可思议地步)。马先生是说,这个是tactical(很巧妙)。当when I read he said that it was very pragmatic of our government, I was shocked. (我听到马英九说,新加坡很务实的时候,感到震惊)』
徐淑真说,指新加坡政府清廉是一个神话,官员的薪水高,包括总理的薪水是美国总统布希的5倍,也是台湾陈水扁总统的好几倍,如果一位部长的年薪高达200万美元,还贪污做什么?这也实在是不公平。
◎愿意向马告知真相
马英九赞扬新加坡的地方,除了官员不贪污之外,还包括政府有效率。针对这一点,徐淑真反驳说,新加坡是一个很小的地方,管理起来当然容易。而且新加坡政府压制反对势力,外界听不到反对的声音,看不到新加坡的真实情况。
徐淑真认为,马英九应该是受到新加坡官方说法左右,因此,如果有机会见到马英九,她会向马英九说明新加坡的真实情况。徐淑真说:『If I had a chance to meet Mr. Ma I would really like to offer him to sit down and explain to him what he had said is probably what he had learned from the diplomatic sources, what he doesn’t know are the real fact. And I think Ma need s to know the fact before he talks about Taiwan using Singapore as a role-model, because I said many times to people that Singapore is a real threat to democracy, not only in Asia but in many places in the world. I heard that Russia ,Venezuela,China are looking at Singapore as a model for economic success. And you can’t achieve this kind of success without political repression, without taking away human rights from your citizen, you can not. And that is Lee Kuan Yew has done. He has talked about Singapore miracle how Singapore has succeeded. What many people don’t know is that there is no democracy in Singapore.如果有机会见到马英九,我会诚心诚意向他说明,他所听到的或许是官方说法,在马英九谈到,台湾应以新加坡为典范之前,他应该先听听真相。新加坡对民主是一大威胁,不仅在亚洲更在世界其他地方。因为据我所知,俄罗斯、委内瑞拉、中国,都以新加坡的经济成就为典范。其实,要达到这样的经济成就,却必须实施政治镇压、夺走市民的人权,否则根本谈不上。这就是李光耀的做法。世人都听到李光耀在大谈经济奇迹,却浑然不知新加坡根本没有民主。』因此,徐淑真说,她要请马先生睁亮眼睛。
◎有民主 才有永续经济
根据台北媒体的报导,徐淑真在公开信中指马英九「舍民主而重经济发展」。徐淑真强调说,她用的是「不强调民主」,并非舍民主。徐淑真认为,民主和经济发展应该并重,没有真正的民主,就不会有真正永续的经济发展。
徐淑真以泰国为例指出,泰国前总理戴克辛就是试图复制李光耀的老路,但是以新加坡和泰国相比,泰国还有新闻自由,新加坡远远不如。徐淑真说:『And also in Thailand you have to see media. The media does investigate journalism. In Singapore you don’t nave free media. The media does not doing the investigation of journalism, it only reports what government tells them to report.So the media have a lot of problems in Singapore, but what is happening is that not being reported.That is the huge difference.你看泰国的媒体,他们可以进行调查采访,但是新加坡根本没有自由的媒体,新加坡媒体无法做调查采访,只能报导官方要他们报导的东西,新加坡媒体有很大的问题,但是正在发生的事却都没有人报导,这是两国很大的不同。』
◎台湾是新加坡的民主灯塔
徐淑真对台湾的民主成就相当熟悉,也相当羡慕,对于推动台湾民主成就的人士,可说是信手拈来,包括前民进党主席施明德、现任副总统吕秀莲、现任高雄市长陈菊,都曾经为了民主运动而入狱。她更提到前民进党主席林义雄,她说:『After 1987,when martial law was lifted, look at Taiwan’s democracy. Before that,林义雄for instance, and all these people suffered so much under martial law, their family were killed ,they were in prison, they were tortured: but look , you have established democracy, your media is ranked by the Freedom House as one of the top in Asis. So very often activists in Singapore we look at Taiwan, especially we look at Taiwan and Hong-Kong ,because we are supposed to have the same culture or route ,but you can achieve this kind of democracy without violence.Why can’t Singapore? 1987年台湾解除戒严之前,包括林义雄等人,都深受戒严法之苦,家人被杀、自身入狱、遭到刑求;但是你看,台湾的民主建立起来了,台湾的媒体还被美国自由之家评定为亚洲名列前茅的新闻自由国家。新加坡的民主人士经常以台湾和香港为灯塔,因为彼此之间有相同的文化和经历,你们都可以成就民主,新加坡为何不能?』
徐淑真也指出,举世都在走向民主大道,因此,展望未来,徐淑真对新加坡的民主前景满怀希望,认为新加坡的民主终将到来。
◎新加坡才应以台湾为典范
新加坡反对派的民主党中央委员徐淑真,8日发表「给马英九的公开信」,立刻引起台湾媒体的注意,纷纷加以转载,也引起讨论。
徐淑真在提到写这封公开信的动机时表示,新加坡是一个没有民主的地方,她对马英九发表这样的言论,感到震惊。她说:『上个星期,我有看到我们这边的海峡时报,头条引述马英九的话说,Ma citing Singapore as a role-model for Taiwan.(马说,新加坡可做台湾的典范)。我看了吓了一跳。为什么你们台湾这么有民主,却要以新加坡为典范?因为新加坡是没有民主,所以,我就看那个内容,马先生就是说,他很admire(景仰)我们这边的cabinet ministers(内阁部长们),他也是说,这边的cabinet ministers是pay themselves exorbitant ridiculous amount of salary,(新加坡部长的薪水高到不可思议地步)。马先生是说,这个是tactical(很巧妙)。当when I read he said that it was very pragmatic of our government, I was shocked. (我听到马英九说,新加坡很务实的时候,感到震惊)』
徐淑真说,指新加坡政府清廉是一个神话,官员的薪水高,包括总理的薪水是美国总统布希的5倍,也是台湾陈水扁总统的好几倍,如果一位部长的年薪高达200万美元,还贪污做什么?这也实在是不公平。
◎愿意向马告知真相
马英九赞扬新加坡的地方,除了官员不贪污之外,还包括政府有效率。针对这一点,徐淑真反驳说,新加坡是一个很小的地方,管理起来当然容易。而且新加坡政府压制反对势力,外界听不到反对的声音,看不到新加坡的真实情况。
徐淑真认为,马英九应该是受到新加坡官方说法左右,因此,如果有机会见到马英九,她会向马英九说明新加坡的真实情况。徐淑真说:『If I had a chance to meet Mr. Ma I would really like to offer him to sit down and explain to him what he had said is probably what he had learned from the diplomatic sources, what he doesn’t know are the real fact. And I think Ma need s to know the fact before he talks about Taiwan using Singapore as a role-model, because I said many times to people that Singapore is a real threat to democracy, not only in Asia but in many places in the world. I heard that Russia ,Venezuela,China are looking at Singapore as a model for economic success. And you can’t achieve this kind of success without political repression, without taking away human rights from your citizen, you can not. And that is Lee Kuan Yew has done. He has talked about Singapore miracle how Singapore has succeeded. What many people don’t know is that there is no democracy in Singapore.如果有机会见到马英九,我会诚心诚意向他说明,他所听到的或许是官方说法,在马英九谈到,台湾应以新加坡为典范之前,他应该先听听真相。新加坡对民主是一大威胁,不仅在亚洲更在世界其他地方。因为据我所知,俄罗斯、委内瑞拉、中国,都以新加坡的经济成就为典范。其实,要达到这样的经济成就,却必须实施政治镇压、夺走市民的人权,否则根本谈不上。这就是李光耀的做法。世人都听到李光耀在大谈经济奇迹,却浑然不知新加坡根本没有民主。』因此,徐淑真说,她要请马先生睁亮眼睛。
◎有民主 才有永续经济
根据台北媒体的报导,徐淑真在公开信中指马英九「舍民主而重经济发展」。徐淑真强调说,她用的是「不强调民主」,并非舍民主。徐淑真认为,民主和经济发展应该并重,没有真正的民主,就不会有真正永续的经济发展。
徐淑真以泰国为例指出,泰国前总理戴克辛就是试图复制李光耀的老路,但是以新加坡和泰国相比,泰国还有新闻自由,新加坡远远不如。徐淑真说:『And also in Thailand you have to see media. The media does investigate journalism. In Singapore you don’t nave free media. The media does not doing the investigation of journalism, it only reports what government tells them to report.So the media have a lot of problems in Singapore, but what is happening is that not being reported.That is the huge difference.你看泰国的媒体,他们可以进行调查采访,但是新加坡根本没有自由的媒体,新加坡媒体无法做调查采访,只能报导官方要他们报导的东西,新加坡媒体有很大的问题,但是正在发生的事却都没有人报导,这是两国很大的不同。』
◎台湾是新加坡的民主灯塔
徐淑真对台湾的民主成就相当熟悉,也相当羡慕,对于推动台湾民主成就的人士,可说是信手拈来,包括前民进党主席施明德、现任副总统吕秀莲、现任高雄市长陈菊,都曾经为了民主运动而入狱。她更提到前民进党主席林义雄,她说:『After 1987,when martial law was lifted, look at Taiwan’s democracy. Before that,林义雄for instance, and all these people suffered so much under martial law, their family were killed ,they were in prison, they were tortured: but look , you have established democracy, your media is ranked by the Freedom House as one of the top in Asis. So very often activists in Singapore we look at Taiwan, especially we look at Taiwan and Hong-Kong ,because we are supposed to have the same culture or route ,but you can achieve this kind of democracy without violence.Why can’t Singapore? 1987年台湾解除戒严之前,包括林义雄等人,都深受戒严法之苦,家人被杀、自身入狱、遭到刑求;但是你看,台湾的民主建立起来了,台湾的媒体还被美国自由之家评定为亚洲名列前茅的新闻自由国家。新加坡的民主人士经常以台湾和香港为灯塔,因为彼此之间有相同的文化和经历,你们都可以成就民主,新加坡为何不能?』
徐淑真也指出,举世都在走向民主大道,因此,展望未来,徐淑真对新加坡的民主前景满怀希望,认为新加坡的民主终将到来。